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Re: rooted ?

Subject: Re: rooted ?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:40:45 -0400
I have found that chkrootkit can cause some false positives with this
check alot. Basically this check takes the output of ps (or whatever
means it uses to determine running procs) and compares that with what it
sees in /proc/. If it finds any discrepencies, it dumps that info to
you, and I suppose the claim that there may be an LKM rootkit installed
is because that is a common way to hide processes, installing an LKM to
modify the kernel structs. I have a high-traffic mailserver which
constantly has quickly dying/starting procs for mail delivery (qmail),
it causes this error much of the time.

On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:21, Jason Rusch wrote:
Sorry if this is not the correct forum,

Curious a day or so after a up2date on a fedora 2 system, I noticed very 
sluggish behavior. After checking obvious things such as netstat, du, nmaping 
it from another machine and checking ps commands thoroughly I found nothing 
abnormal. I then moved onto running a few rootkit scanners, all showed 
cleaned (for what its worth of course), I used both the tarball and rpm 
chkrootkit and scanned my machine with both. 

The strange part is, is that the one ran from source showed everything to be 
ok, the rpm showed 23-35 hidden processes, possible LKM rootkit installed. 
now after running the cmd " /usr/lib/chkrootkit-0.43/chkproc -v" I found the 
processes within the /proc and checked the status/info on all. they were all 
sleeping process from application I run all the time (evolution, mozilla, 
nautilus ). I booted the machine in init3 and without X and I didnt have this 
problem. 

The machine normally boots in init5, now if I start X then the problem 
arises, now I dont know if this is the right forum, but I would not think 
that I am rooted (optimistically said) and this is some weird iissue from an 
update. 1 more note all the hidden processes were  owned and ran under my 
user account. Any input from anyone would be great. and no I didnt get 
Tripwire installed or record a MD5sum record ooopps

anyway just a day or so ago I read somewhere there may be a latency time 
diff. between the threads that are running and the chrootkit detection thus 
causing the discrepancy?

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