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| Subject: | Re: Asymmetric traffic/topology |
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| Date: | Fri, 9 Nov 2007 06:52:21 -0800 |
-J On Nov 8, 2007, at 8:37 PM, snort user wrote:
Jeremy,
Do you have any reference for the information that you provided?
Thanks
On Nov 8, 2007 6:06 PM, Jeremy Bennett <jeremy@deities.org> wrote:First there are three types of asymmetry in a network that can cause problems for some times of IPS devices.
1. Connection-level asymmetry: This is the case where a given TCP connection (up and down stream) is on a single network path but a separate, identical connection may follow a different path. This is very common and can cause problems for behavioral systems.
2. Flow-level asymmetry: This is the case where the upstream and downstream flows in a TCP connection may follow different paths. This can cause problems for behavioral systems and stateful packet- inspection.
3. Packet-level asymmetry: This is the case packets within a flow may be following different routes in a network. This can cause problems for any IPS except for the most basic packet-filter.
Now in my experience, #1 is very common in medium to large enterprises that have built for scalability and redundancy. #2 is common in load-balanced server farms. #3 is not extremely common but does appear in some instances of a hot-hot redundancy deployment.
-J
On Nov 7, 2007, at 4:42 PM, snort user wrote:
Greetings.
I am sure that most of you know about the asymmetric traffic/ topology
problem in relevance to
IDS/IPS systems.
( By Asymmetric traffic/topology, I mean the case where client to
server packets traverse a different path
in your network compared to server to client packets. Hence the
IDS/IPS see only one side of the conversation)
I am trying to find out how wide this problem really is? Is it commonly seen in large / enterprise networks ?
Any input is welcome.
Thanks
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