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Re: IDS detection approaches

Subject: Re: IDS detection approaches
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:13:53 -0700
Randy,

Anyone with a CCO account can download the signatures.  However, as I stated
in my earlier e-mail, they're not useful to you unless you have a Cisco IPS
sensor, whether a standalone appliance (4200-series), switch module
(IDSM-2), firewall module (AIP-10 or 20), router module, or router IOS IPS.

When I say the signatures are open, I mean that there is nothing to prevent
you from viewing all settings, modifying them, cloning them, deleting them,
or creating your own signatures.  The signatures are not "locked" or
"hidden", in other words.

I would be more than happy to provide you with screenshots showing what the
signatures look like, and what options you have for modifying them.  Unless
the entire list wants to see it, I'll unicast it to you if you want it.  I
don't want to misuse the list by marketing our products, but if there are
things you genuinely want to see, I'll provide it.

Gary


On 10/12/07 9:00 AM, "randy@procyonlabs.com" <randy@procyonlabs.com> wrote:

So it is "open" to any paying customer of Cisco?

What makes Cisco's IDS rules "open" then? I ask because the abuse of the term
is overwhelming. It is my understanding that "open" means the technology plays
well with others, using standardized popular methodology shared amongst the
community.

Now, I do have a valid CCO account, but we have no IDS devices on the
contracts. Can I still download the rules, despite the warnings given that I
must have a specific contract/license to do so?


Thanks,
Randy



Anyone with a valid license is able to download the signatures to be placed
on your Cisco sensor.  Once you have placed them on your sensor, you are
free to open/edit/manipulate or add to the signatures at will.

Open signatures does not mean they are "open source" or free.  Without a
Cisco sensor, they won't be much use to you.

If you have a CCO account, you can download the signatures at:
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/ips6-sigup

Gary



On 10/12/07 9:59 PM, "Randal T. Rioux" <randy@procyonlabs.com> wrote:

Gary Halleen wrote:
<snip>

Additionally, all Cisco IPS signatures are open.  You are able to view all
or most fields of signatures, create your own, and modify existing
signatures.  You do not need to wait for Cisco to release new signatures
if
you have sufficient IDS/IPS skills to write a new signature.  If you can
write a snort rule, you can write a Cisco IPS signature.

Open? Really? Where can I download them?

Thanks,
Randy


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