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Re: anomaly vs signature

Subject: Re: anomaly vs signature
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:53:55 -0700

On Jul 31, 2006, at 8:58 PM, SanjayR wrote:

Please read the first line as "Yes...its true that there are more misuse based ID systems than the anomaly based. "
thanks
At 11:02 AM 7/28/2006, SanjayR wrote:
Yes...its true that there are more anomaly based ID systems than the misuse based. One possible reason may be the rate of FPs for anomaly based systems. If you look at the research perspective, there is a big gap between the research and commercial ID systems. Reason may be research is focusing on Machine learning, data mining

I can't agree with this statement - properly-implemented AD systems don't exhibit false positives at all, the key is whether or non one - cares- about the anomalies one's seeing (and that's where tuning comes in). My operational experience with commercial anomaly- detection systems on production networks over the last 5 years is that they're extremely useful for SP and large enterprise opesec teams in terms of detecting/classifying/tracing back DoS attacks, worm outbreaks, and other forms of network behaviors which may not be deemed security risks in and of themselves, but which are interesting or of possible forensic value (i.e., user kicks off large ftp transfer to a server he's never accessed before, etc.), and I've never seen a false positive during that time.


There are several commercial AD systems (both statistical and behavioral) which are quite good; there's also an open-source project called Panoptis, but it's been inactive for a while.

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