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Re: IPS Reliability/Availability

Subject: Re: IPS Reliability/Availability
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:24:29 -0500
Actually, I'm seeing other vendors, SourceFire being one of the ones
in the eval list below, who have not gone the ASIC route, but have
gone with a kind of RISC architecture to get speed.  Their pitch is
that they get the performance of the ASIC vendors by using multiple
RISC chips (I think the base model that does a gig inline has 6 RISC
processors) to handle the load (plus an extra processor to handle the
management end of things... so 7 all together).    They are claiming
performance of an ASIC but the flexibility of software.  Not sure how
valid that claim is.

Question 1 :  I'm wondering if anybody has tested these or stacked
them up next to the ASIC brands to test perfomance, and if so, can
they provide some feedback.

Question 2: Does anybody have a list of which vendors are using ASICs
for performance and which are using this RISC type architecture for
performance?

Question 3: Not so much a question, but a general request;  I'd be
interested in a "pro vs con" for each if anybody gets their hands on
them.

-d

On 2/6/06, Andrew Plato <andrew.plato@anitian.com> wrote:
Most of these devices are pretty good for reliability. The only
exception I would make is SourceFire, which back when we sold it had
abysmal reliability (3 out of 4 boxes we sold to a customer show up dead
or died soon after installation).

TippingPoint sells a zero-power bypass add-on for their IPS. If the IPS
fails in anyway, traffic is passed through the zero-power device. Its
very easy to add. Juniper does something similar.

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Andrew Plato, CISSP, CISM
President/Principal Consultant
Anitian Enterprise Security

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-----Original Message-----
From: geek_brigades@yahoo.com [mailto:geek_brigades@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:27 AM
To: focus-ids@securityfocus.com
Subject: IPS Reliability/Availability

I am working on a big IPS project and I am very concerned about
installing an inline device in a core enterprise network, where these
devices have the potential to create big time network outages.

Can you, please, share your possible bad experiences about the
reliability of the following inline IPS products:

ISS
TippingPoint
Juniper IPS
Sourcefire
McAfee IntruShield

Have you had any issues with the availability of these devices, such as
fail close crashes or do you have any experience with bypass switches
that would mitigate the availability issue?

Thanks,
Mike

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