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RE: IDS and Spywares

Subject: RE: IDS and Spywares
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:12:32 -0700 (PDT)
Right said Omar, thats why security companies are
investing million of $s and working on Products like
NIDS, hIDS and other secuirty products like
Vulnerability assessment/management etc.. 
Frank, don't you believe that a Techie can even harden
a MS OS to protect it from Virus/Worm attack or from
some vulnerability exploit attacks... 
But still he would like to keep his machine upto-date
with MS patches and with antivirus service always
running, may be hIDS running or probably with NIDS
installed on network..just to get on safer side and to
minimize the security risk and above all to go into
relax mode by reducing administartive tasks... 
Same way IDS, HIDS, Antivirus all are protecting the
networks,hosts at different layers...Leaving the
Network administrators with least administrative
work...
If you want to see the Administrator running in
company shouting "hey, theres spyware", "oops! I
missed to harden this machine". In this case you can
surely offer that job to Omar ;-) 

-Dhruv


--- Omar Herrera <oherrera@prodigy.net.mx> wrote:



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Knobbe [mailto:frank@knobbe.us]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:06 AM

On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 10:03 +0100, Omar A. Herrera
wrote:
[...]
I do agree with you that layered security is
always the best option,
even if
there is some redundancy in some of the
activities performed by
different
kinds of products.
[...]


What I'm trying to say is:

Stop wasting your time wrapping more band-aids
around flaws! Start
attacking the real problem and solve that! Stop
buying into the security
buzz spun by security vendors promising the
all-curing pixie dust, and
understand and correct the core root causes of the
problem yourself!

If we don't look at the real issues anymore, then
all hope is lost.


Yea right... it is easy to be a purist and just
point out at the right
theoretical solution. You are absolutely right, but
if making those changes
were just as simple as saying it...

I'm not talking to the technological part of the
problem here, but to
administrative problem. You really think it is so
simple to just go with
your Boss and say: "Hey Boss, we need to replace all
those workstations with
X because of this and this, throwing away and
historic dependency of dozens
of versions for thousands of applications, many of
which don't exist for X
for several reasons, but we can simply develop them
ourselves"?

You better offer me a job in your company (where it
seems it is possible to
do this), because if I do this, I'm certainly going
to get kicked out of
mine :-)

Understanding and complying with business
requirements and restrictions is
also an essential part of our jobs, not just playing
the techie, all
powerful, know all wizard.

Regards,

Omar Herrera




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