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| Subject: | Re: Cisco IOS Shellcode - McAfee IPS Protection |
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| Date: | Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:22:02 -0400 |
At 06:25 PM 8/4/2005, Joel Esler wrote:
How can they have "0-day" if ISS (makers of RealSecure and proventia IDS) announced the vuln? Wouldn't that lead us to believe that ISS had it first?
It depends on what they are detecting and/or blocking. For example, we added rules to look for un-encrypted Cisco command shells in our NeVO product. We have similar rules for UNIX and Windows shell detection which is trivial to evade, but extremely effective in the wild.
Since the IDS/IPS guys are more on the detect/prevent side, I would expect them to focus on stuff like instruction sets for the CPUs used in various Cisco products and anomalies in protocols used by routers/switches like RIP, tftp, SNMP, .etc. Many of these concepts (like blocking protocol anomalies in SNMP) have been in IPS products for several years already.
> Beyond that, it's been a week, I am sure that all the major IDS > venders have it.
I think most of them are relying on existing technology. For example, a quick check of snort.org and bleedingsnort.org didn't have any new cisco-specific rules, yet there are signatures to detect various Cisco attacks already.
Ron Gula, CTO Tenable Network Security http://www.tenablesecurity.com
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