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| Subject: | Re: IDS alerts / second - Correlation - Virtualization |
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| Date: | Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:38:55 -0400 |
I completely agree with Frank here...scanning technologies are interesting to get a snapshot, but by definition they miss all kinds of things: - devices/workstations/servers which are 'off' or offline when the scan is performed. - software/servers installed after the scan - hw positioned behind FWs which might be blocking the scans - new hw (laptops, etc.) or hw behind a wifi - partner network links and the hw on that network - false/poor OS information generated by odd hw configurations/OS tweaks Also, agree with Frank re: value of detecting compromises. I'm not a fan of alerts, but i think it's important to know that an asset had been subjected to an attack (even if that attack is targeting the wrong OS/vulnerability/etc.) maybe it makes more sense to use an asset database to de-prioritize unsuccessful alerts, but it doesn't make sense (to me anyway) to not report on an attempted attack... just my 2 cents. /will On 7/24/05, Frank Knobbe <frank@knobbe.us> wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 13:30 -0700, Swift, David wrote:and ideally to turn off alerting for events the protected network is not vulnerable to.You meant to say "network is not *known* to be vulnerable to". The knowing part is the tricky part. I'm not start with 0-day issues. Even without those, the vulnerability landscape is in flux. What happens when an not-vulnerable server dies, and gets restored to a vulnerable version? Your vulnerability scan engine would have to constantly run scans. Again, why not detect "compromises" instead of "assumed/confirmed vulnerability states"? Regards, Frank
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