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| Subject: | Re: Firewalls (was Re: IDS evaluations procedures) |
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| Date: | Thu, 21 Jul 2005 05:22:27 +0530 |
On 18/07/05 21:09 -0400, Richard Bejtlich wrote:
On 7/17/05, Devdas Bhagat <devdas@dvb.homelinux.org> wrote:An IDS is not an attack prevention mechanism. An IDS is a tool to detect when your active attack detection mechanisms have been bypassed. An IDS is passive. It tells you what it can see, but it is not supposed to do anything to that traffic. Active elements are called firewalls, and firewalls include both packet filters and proxies.Wow, I had almost given up hope that anyone else thought this way. Bravo Devdas. The "IPS is better than IDS" crowd ignores the fact that an IPS is another kind of firewall, not an "improved" IDS. In fact, you could argue the IPS is a step backward from a stateful layer 3/4 firewall in that the IPS inverts a proven security model.
Personally, it is a step backwards from proxy firewalls with an inverted security model.
Good security (implemented on most firewalls) says "allow what policy says is authorized, deny all else." The IPS model says "deny what policy says is malicious, allow all else." Marty pointed this out a while ago and it has stayed with me. I think IPS is helpful when one needs to make granular access control decisions based on layer 7 traffic characteristics. However, large
Proxy firewalls! If it is worth doing, it is worth doing it right. Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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