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| Subject: | RE: Router/Switches and viruses |
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| Date: | Thu, 19 May 2005 20:11:28 -0400 |
Hi Aseeker, I've worked with several worm breakouts and multiple DDOS attacks over the past year. Switches are generally not a problem (although bear in mind some low end switches will have problems with volume), but ROUTERS are. Most of the time, a low-end router will need to have ACLs disabled in order to stay up. A router is designed to forward traffic, rather than process the traffic according to an ACL, and then forward it. ACLs take up a lot of resource. If you then pass multiple-source volumes of traffic through such a router, you will kill it. I have seen a single desktop machine take out a switch though, but only as it was a source of a broadcast storm, and was plugged twice into the same switch... To prevent such an outage, make sure your L2 and L3 infrastructure can handle the maximum packets per second that each device can throw at it... If you run out of capacity, turn to Foundry or Extreme. To mitigate the affects of such a 'rogue' PC, ensure you have things like STP enable to cut out loops, and also segregate PCs into disparate LANs, and place an IPS in between to mitigate/stop the propagation of zero-day worms/viruses.
From what you've said, it is more network design that is your potential
problem. A NIDS and Sniffer will help you out in the long run as means of forensics, but only an IPS will PROTECT your networks if you deem that through risk analysis, this is protection you cannot do without. Regards, Tim -----Original Message----- From: Seek Knowledge [mailto:aseeker03@yahoo.com] Sent: 03 May 2005 22:41 To: focus-ids@securityfocus.com Subject: Router/Switches and viruses Does anyone have any first-hand experience with a single infected desktop machine (or windows server for that matter) taking out a LAN switch? Would anyone have any stories from the trenches of an infected machine causing a directly connected router to stop functioning? If so, what could be done to prevent such an outage? What IDS/IPS strategy might one implement to prevent and or at least detect such an event? Thanks in advance. ASeeker ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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