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| Subject: | Re: How to choose an IDS/FW MSS provider |
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| Date: | Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:06:13 -0800 |
I think you're looking in the wrong direction strategically. IPS at the edge devices (i.e. switch ports) is the next frontier. Protecting the core from the distribution layer and workstations from other workstations is next. You already have some IPS vendors rushing in this direction. IPS at the network perimeter is old hat by now. There may be some more convergence down the road in the FW / IPS space but I don¹t see much more.
I'm sorry, what "old hat" technology are you referring to? Tippingpoint? Intruvert? Proventia G? These are "old hat"? How so? What percentage of market share denotes "old hat"? Your reasoning says < 10%. I'm also really confused as to how you think we're going to deploy (affordable) IPS technology at the edge? What is the per-port cost of current (successful) IPS technologies? If I have 30,000 ports in my enterprise, what will it cost me to "protect the core from the distribution layer"? I'm not certain what school of IPS deployment you are from but it's definitely not the "school of reality". Or perhaps you know of some new edge technology: 1. that's affordable 2. that's deployable on the workstation 3. that's deployable on the switch fabric (enterprise wide) 4. that I/we can't comprehend (perhaps from Nitro Security?) If #3 is the answer, please explain / describe / enlighten. On 3/15/05 8:26 PM, "Chris Harrington" <charrington@nitrosecurity.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Adam Powers [mailto:apowers@lancope.com]Besides, the device still needs an IP on the local network for management.Sounds like security through obscurity to me. You do not need an IP address to manage an IPS. You just have to route the management traffic through the IPS if you want to do in band management. Telco equipment has been doing this sort of thing for a while. There are instances where a management interface with an IP makes sense but it is not required.With the obvious success of IPS technologies at the perimeter, I find ithard to believe that IPS and FW >technologies will remain disparate technologies for more than a few more years. The IPS vendors need to >do one of two things:1. Find a good firewall vendor to acquire them or 2. Build a full featuredfirewall from scratch. I think you're looking in the wrong direction strategically. IPS at the edge devices (i.e. switch ports) is the next frontier. Protecting the core from the distribution layer and workstations from other workstations is next. You already have some IPS vendors rushing in this direction. IPS at the network perimeter is old hat by now. There may be some more convergence down the road in the FW / IPS space but I don¹t see much more. --Chris Christopher Harrington, CISSP Director, Nitro Threat Analysis Center nitrosecurity o: 603.766.8160 x25 c: 603.969.0592 e: charrington@nitrosecurity.com w: www.nitrosecurity.com Skype: chrisharrington
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