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Re: Need some information on HIDS!

Subject: Re: Need some information on HIDS!
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:48:48 -0500
Hello. I have already invoked such a scenario in some of my previous IDS work/articles. What I had in mind is something like encrypting the whole network traffic, to prevent sniffing from intruders (let's say wall-to-wall SSH, for example). In such an environment, if you still wanted to keep some NIDS capabilities, you'd actually have to install NIDS software (Snort comes to mind) on every host on the network, in non-promiscuous mode (since sniffing the rest of the network traffic is useless, since it is encrypted).

I had the opportunity to discuss this possibility with Allan Paller of SANS and with Eugene Schultz last year during the Seguridad en Computo conference in Mexico, and they agreed with me that theoritically and technically, this should be working. However, in practice, they oversaw the chance that the volume of logs to analyze would simply be too enormous to be analyzed, even with the aid of specialized software.

The log management problematic raised in my mind long before I was playing with such ideas as host-based NIDS, and I think that these problems can be overridden with real-time and distributed log analysis, coupled with the rest of the security measures present on the network. That's one of the reasons that lead me to develop LogAgent, LogIDS and LogMonitor, a set of agent and consoles for monitoring, analysing and displaying logs. I also made a bunch of other HIDS tools. They can be downloaded at http://securit.iquebec.com/ (the website may be slow, i'm working on improving these conditions soon).

I don't know if this is what you had in mind, but I'd like to hear what other people may think about this topic.

Adam Richard, aka Floydman
SecurIT Informatique Inc.

At 03:51 AM 25/02/2005, peng xuena wrote:

hi, all:

Recently, i am interested in host-based IDS and want to design a host-based network traffic monitoring system which monitoring the network traffic of local host. I wonder if there is already any such system. Can all of you give me some suggestions on this?

Thanks a lot!


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