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RE: IDS event filtering

Subject: RE: IDS event filtering
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:22:03 -0500

Or to build an adaptive system: one that would automatically compensate
for the dynamic nature of networks, application and threats.

Not easy, but we are certainly trying.

~ Ofefr

Ofer Shezaf
CTO, Breach Security

Tel: +972.9.956.0036 ext.212
Cell: +972.54.443.1119
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-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Hollows [mailto:phollows@open.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:57 PM
To: Ofer Shezaf; focus-ids@lists.securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: IDS event filtering

Part of the issue with any set of filters, especially ones that are
manually managed, is that you create an ongoing management burden (and
associated structural, recurring cists) as threats, hosts and
vulnerabilities change.

The trick with IDS and SIM is to find an approach, such as risk
analysis, that enables you to automate this process when tied together
with some kind of subscription service, which should dramatically
reduce
your maintenance burden, yielding the severity reports Ofer mentions.

FWIW

Phil Hollows
VP Marketing
OpenService, Inc.
110 Turnpike Road, Suite 308
Westborough, MA 01581
http://www.open.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Ofer Shezaf [mailto:Ofer.Shezaf@breach.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:41 AM
To: focus-ids@lists.securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: IDS event filtering


To add my two cents:

Filtering is not only about yes and no, but also about severity.

My experience shows that management report should include also a
summary
of unsuccessful attacks as they are used for policy creation and
budgeting. In other words, I would like to show my boss that the world
is dangerous, and that it attacks our systems.

On the other hand in real time monitoring that produced actionable
items
I would not want to see events that do not pose immediate threat.

The trick in many IDS/SIM systems is to set different severity levels:
information only for non immediate events and high severity to events
that pose immediate threat.

Ofer Shezaf
CTO, Breach Security
Tel: +972.9.956.0036 ext.212
Cell: +972.54.443.1119
ofers@breach.com
http://www.breach.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Dodson [mailto:CraftedPacket@securitynerds.org]
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 5:37 PM
To: focus-ids@lists.securityfocus.com
Subject: IDS event filtering

I am wanting to get an idea of what you guys out there filter from
your
IDS sensors.  Some of the sensors I monitor get TONS of events for
MSSQL
control overflows.  If the customer is patched for slammer and does
not
have any SQL services on the internet, is it safe to filter out
those
events?  Do you still want to see that traffic even though you know
your
are not vulnerable?  Thanks!



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