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| Subject: | RE: IDS, IPS and encrypted traffic |
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| Date: | Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:31:31 -0800 |
I don't want to re-state the obvious but if the traffic is sent from Host A to Host B, and Host B has the appropriate Key to decrypt the traffic, this decryption will/should (generalization of course) occur at a lower level of the TCP/IP stack long before the application see's it. Thus what the IDS/IPS See's (assuming HIDS/HIPS as u stated) will be decrypted data. However if you have traffic that is intended from Host A to Host B and you are trying to analyze it using Host C, you would need to provide the Key to Host C to be able to Decrypt the traffic to analyze it. I don't believe any vendor will say "We can analyze the encrypted payload of any TCP or IP Packet across the wire", they may be able to analyze the header, but not the payload. That's kinda the whole point of encryption. Eric McCarty -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Hamburg [mailto:daniel.hamburg@iis.rub.de] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:15 PM To: Focus IDS List Subject: IDS, IPS and encrypted traffic Hello everybody, I've been looking around the net for a while, trying to find some theoretical and practical approaches to solve the problem of analyzing encrypted traffic. I know, that there is a need to decrypt the traffic before analyzing it, but I haven't found any concrete solutions neither for NIDS nor for HIDS yet. Some HIDS vendors announced that their products are capable of analyzing encrypted traffic, but I didn't succeed to find any details about that. Does anybody know some products or papers which deal with the problem of analyzing encrypted traffic? Thanks in advance, Daniel Hamburg ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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