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| Subject: | RE: DDOS Bot Blacklist |
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| Date: | Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:36:34 -0500 |
The further question that comes to my mind is who would enforce blocking based on this list? It seems to me that if the subscribers to the list were anything other than ISPs, there would be little point to it. By the time you're blocking at your firewall, the DDoS traffic has already consumed what bandwidth it was meant to consume. And this is, of course, in addition to your concerns about DHCP addressing and spoofed source addresses.
-----Original Message----- From: Andy Cuff [mailto:lists@securitywizardry.com] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 5:27 PM To: focus-ids@securityfocus.com Subject: DDOS Bot Blacklist Hi, I was wondering if anyone had looked into the creation of a blacklist for DDOS bots? There are obvious concerns; firstly, where the source may be spoofed, though most of the Attack Mitigation Systems should deal with stateless attacks and secondly, with so many of the bots originating from DHCP scopes, many bots this could be overcome by rapid aging of the addresses or only including addresses used more than once indicating a long term address lease in the scope. Regards -andy cuff The Talisker Network Security Portal http://securitywizardry.com Computer Network Defence Ltd --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.789 / Virus Database: 534 - Release Date: 07/11/2004 -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_04
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