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Re: session logging IDS

Subject: Re: session logging IDS
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 09:04:28 +0100


--On 30 August 2004 18:04 -0400 "David W. Goodrum" <dgoodrum@nfr.com> wrote:

Hmmmm, I would like verification that either Cisco or Intrushield (or any
other IDS/IPS) can actually capture an entire session from beginning to
end, when the alert was triggered somewhere in the middle, and that they
can do it all the time.

That would certainly be a new feature for Cisco's offering since the last time I worked with it (Mid-2002).


The only other things that I've seen that are relevant are Niksun's NetVCR and Snort/sourcefire. At the moment, out of the box, Snort can only capture subsequent packets in a session or from a source host *after* the alert-triggering packet (using the 'tag' keyword). I'm currently extending ACID and FLoP to allow pcap files of tagged alerts to be downloaded from ACID for analysis using Ethereal or other tools.

The other thing I thought of, after being inspired by Niksun's product, was to arrange for tethereal to dump to a pair of files (i.e. a double buffer), switching every n minutes. It would then be possible to arrange for an IDS to send a signal to tethereal (or rather, some controlling process) when it generated an interesting alert, telling tethereal to preserve the previous dump file, and continue logging to the current one until further notice, giving you upto at least n minutes of reverse 'time travel'.

-dave

David W. Goodrum

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