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Re: layer 2&3 firewall/filter?

Subject: Re: layer 2&3 firewall/filter?
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:31:04 -0600
Hi

I really haven't seen any L2 FW who blocks MAC addresses, mainly because
MAC's doesn't travel through anything beyond a switch or any other L2
device. They're not routable.

At most, Firewalls like Sunscreen, Juniper, or IPS like Proventias G and M,
Tipping Point, Intrushield, etc. can work at L2: not assigning an IP to
their interfaces, acting like "stealth", but those firewalls doesn't have
all the capabilities a L3 firewall has, for example, VPN. Almost all IPS
detects fraggle attacks, so you may end up looking for an IPS rather than a
L2 Firewall.

If there exists any firewall that can block MAC addresses, that would be new
to me.

Regards

Omar


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Hi everyone, 

I was just wondering, are there any firewalls/packet filters that filter at 
layer 3 & layer 2? 
Because I want to filter by MAC address as well as IP address... also if the

firewall/filter logs which MAC address has which IP address, 
I think I can do some simple Intrusion Detection. 

The reason I want a layer 2 filter/firewall is so that when an attacker 
spoofs an internal IP address, (which should be ingress filtered),  if the 
packet manages to get into the network, I assume the MAC address will be 
different to the host being attacked... like so: 

Attacker                        Spoofed packet                     Host A 
RST Packet/ICMP              Host B 
MAC: 09:09:09:09                                                       MAC 
x:x:x:x                                                             MAC: 
x:x:x:x 
IP:      x.x.x.x                     ----------->                        IP:

192.168.0.22       ---------->                          IP: 192.168.0.20 
                                    srcIP: 192.168.0.20 
| 
                                    srcMAC: 09:09:09:09 
<-------------RST/ICMP----------| 
                                    dstIP: 192.168.0.22 

"Fraggle Attack". 



Hoperfully a layer 2 filter/firewall between A and B could stop this attack.


Is there anything out there that can stop these type of attacks? 

Thanks for your input, 

~Davie Elliott 

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