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RE: Firewall technology

Subject: RE: Firewall technology
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:57:22 -0800
In this case you would enter both the name of the application (the
antivirus software) as well as the MD5 of the executable.  I suspect you
used filename alone.  If you enter the MD5 the trick you describe below
will fail.

sky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Clymer [mailto:chris@chrisclymer.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:17 AM
To: firewalls@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Firewall technology

I tested Integrity out a few months ago.  Fun toy, but easy 
to fake out.  I 
was able to convince it that notepad.exe was in fact the 
antivirus software 
that the policy required to be on the clients before letting 
them out to the 
network very trivially.

I'm by no means an expert in malware, if i was able to do 
this with a little 
bit of re-naming, then I am sure that plenty of malware could 
masquerade as 
legitmate software very easily.

On Thursday 29 December 2005 10:00 pm, Sean Krause wrote:
Davie,
    Check Point has realized your point on securing the PC 
from spyware and
0-Day attacks using PC based firewall (Zone Alarm) but 
centrally managed.
http://www.checkpoint.com/products/integrity/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "coder" <elite.coder@ntlworld.com>
To: <firewalls@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:51 AM
Subject: Firewall technology

Hello everyone,

I wanted to get the opinions of experts before I carry on with my
project.

I

am curently writting  a thesis on the limitations of 
firewall technology,
for now it seems that firewall technology for the gateway 
is pretty much
covered. However, noone seems to have focused on firewall 
technology for
clients (on big networks), home firewalls such as 
ZoneAlarm are useless

for

a network with many PCs because it cant be managed 
centrally and it asks

the

user if they want to create a new rule when somthing 
tries to get out.

In my thesis I was going to say that these are the 
problems and the
solutions was to write a firewall system that can be 
managed centrally

(via

web interface), also for technical universities where 
students maybe
writting network software and using their own protocols, 
I was going to

see

if I could create some kind of "protocol creator" for 
admins. Originally

my

thesis was going to be about security corporation sized 
networks, but in

my

research I have come across a few other things.

IEEE802.1x and IPSec can apparently replace client-side 
firewalls, I dont
really know much about those two technologies, but I am still
researching. If these two techologies are better than client-side
firewalls and or cost less, I shall focus my thesis on 
small company
networks (who cant afford good network technology or a 
full-time net
admin).

My thesis was going to be centered around the fact that 
machines within

huge

networks get infected by malware and such, either by 
websites or via
removable media, I am hoping that my firewall I idea 
would: stop sending
keylogger and spyware details back to the "hacker" and 
stop viruses/worms
spreading from the infected client.

So, what client-side technologies do corporations use (if any)?
Are there any limitations for IPSec and 802.1X?
What are your opinions on what I was saying about 
client-side firewalls?

Thank you for your answers,

Davie Elliott.


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