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| Subject: | Re: Firewall technology |
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| Date: | Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:48:20 +0200 |
Hello Davie, actually there are products for the internal network that are centrally managed. However the problem inside the firewall is not to block or allow certain ports. After all, it is the internal (=trusted) network. Even if there is the need to filter the traffic between two different departments, the administrator can always install a firewall (usually different departments use different VLANs or are somehow separated). There are technologies like Cisco's CSA (Cisco Security Agent) where the administrator can create a policy that allows access to network resources for some applications while it denies access to others. Obviously the configuration of the systems must be known to the administrator in order to create a proper policy that will be as restrictive as possible but will not make it difficult for users to work and accomplish their tasks. In order to create a safe network immune to all possible threats (if this is at all possible), you need to use all technologies available and not just rely on access lists (wherever these may be used). You need to use AV software (that is also great against spyware and malware in general), IDS/IDP systems that can detect anomalies in the network, authentication schemes that will allow access only to those that need it, audit mechanisms so that you will be able to track events in the past and the list goes on. If I had the opportunity to create the "perfect" corporate network (in regards of security) without having to worry about the cost, I would use at least these technologies: - firewall systems - personal firewall systems (mostly to control software access to the network, not to filter ports and protocols) - IDS/IDP systems wherever they are necessary - AV software (and content checking systems in general) - AAA systems to control access to all network resources, even access to the network itself - VPN systems - log management systems to analyze events from all the above However, as we live in an imperfect world, all the equipment you can buy and all the technology you can get your hands on is useless unless you have a policy. The policy itself in turn is useless unless it is being enforced. This policy must define the way systems are used (but not how they are used), the way users use the network resources and the way users and systems interact with each other. On 29/12/05, coder <elite.coder@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hello everyone, I wanted to get the opinions of experts before I carry on with my project. I am curently writting a thesis on the limitations of firewall technology, for now it seems that firewall technology for the gateway is pretty much covered. However, noone seems to have focused on firewall technology for clients (on big networks), home firewalls such as ZoneAlarm are useless for a network with many PCs because it cant be managed centrally and it asks the user if they want to create a new rule when somthing tries to get out. In my thesis I was going to say that these are the problems and the solutions was to write a firewall system that can be managed centrally (via web interface), also for technical universities where students maybe writting network software and using their own protocols, I was going to see if I could create some kind of "protocol creator" for admins. Originally my thesis was going to be about security corporation sized networks, but in my research I have come across a few other things. IEEE802.1x and IPSec can apparently replace client-side firewalls, I dont really know much about those two technologies, but I am still researching. If these two techologies are better than client-side firewalls and or cost less, I shall focus my thesis on small company networks (who cant afford good network technology or a full-time net admin). My thesis was going to be centered around the fact that machines within huge networks get infected by malware and such, either by websites or via removable media, I am hoping that my firewall I idea would: stop sending keylogger and spyware details back to the "hacker" and stop viruses/worms spreading from the infected client. So, what client-side technologies do corporations use (if any)? Are there any limitations for IPSec and 802.1X? What are your opinions on what I was saying about client-side firewalls? Thank you for your answers, Davie Elliott.
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