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| Subject: | RE: VMWARE/DMZ Question |
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| Date: | Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:18:46 +0200 |
Hello Richard, If I understand well: you have DMZ VMWare images running on non-DMZ machine. The problem is potential break in into the DMZ VMWare machine, and usage of the currently unknown exploit on the VMWare process (from the OS within the image) that could lead to the privilege escalation and potential break into the internal network. The attacker can find out is he/she on the virtual machine with almost one CPU instruction (http://www.invisiblethings.org/papers/redpill.html). With this knowledge and potential exploit of VMWare attacker could get into internal network. In this scenario the best thing for you to do is to put all VMWare images on one physical machine that has access only to DMZ and run VMWare images on that machine. However, the best thing could be impossible for your organization, so all you can do is to run VMWare under some extremely low privileged account that have no access to the internal network and minimal rights on the physical machine. And don't forget to closely monitor activities of that account on the local machine and on the both networks. I recommend you also to read the following document: http://www.cs.nps.navy.mil/people/faculty/irvine/publications/2000/VMM-useni x00-0611.pdf My 2c Goran goran.pizent@ekobit.hr Ekobit d.o.o (http://www.ekobit.hr) -----Original Message----- From: Richard St John [mailto:Richard.StJohn@gbe.com] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:39 PM To: firewalls@securityfocus.com Subject: VMWARE/DMZ Question Hello List, This is not necessarily a firewall question, but would like opinions. One of our managers would like to take a server running VMWARE and connect it to our DMZ and assigning specific OSs to the DMZ NIC. Not bad so far, 8 or 9 servers running through one NIC on our DMZ. The hmmmm part of the problem is the servers he wants to use already have another NIC on our internal server network and is running 2 or 3 servers. So essentially he is asking to put the same server on our internal network and our DMZ, using VMWARE which he assures me cannot be compromised in such a way that the compromised OS can see the NIC card it is not assigned to see. The installed OS for each VMWARE section can only see what it is assigned to see and cannot see the rest of the machine(s) and hardware. Having not worked with VMWARE as much as I would like to, can someone see any issues with this, confirm it works securely, or confirms it fails miserably. I am leery about it because I have one machine on two networks that essentially traverse the firewall. Is VMWARE secure enough to do this? Thought, comments, suggestions Richard St. John
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