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| Subject: | RE: Checkpoint vs. Juniper Netscreen |
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| Date: | Thu, 26 May 2005 18:25:59 -0400 |
A note regarding EAL4. The certification only applies to the version tested. Once the product is modified, the certification is invalid. This means that Check Point's resolution of bugtraq issues nullifies the certification. If EAL4 is of importance to you, make sure that the vendor is also providing maintenance assurance. This warranties that the product will always be EAL4 certified. -----Original Message----- From: Ha, Jason [mailto:JHa@verisign.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:30 AM To: Rossen S. Naydenov; firewalls Subject: RE: Checkpoint vs. Juniper Netscreen Hi Rossen, I can just see the thread of emails now... Alright, let me try and break it down with some structure. We'll focus specifically on the following areas: Security Performance Management VPN (site to site) VPN (remote access) High Availability IDP Support Nice Bonus Fluffy Stuff Let's start with Check Point **************************** Security: Check Point is EAL4 certified and is regarded as a relatively secure firewall. It does have more bugtraqs than most other firewalls, but they are generally addressed quite quickly by the Check Point crew. The firewall stands up against most of the standard fragmentation and spoofing style attacks, and most large corporates trust it to secure critical servers on the DMZ. Check Point comes with SmartDefense (detailed later) to further limit vulnerabilities which can be exploited on hosts. Check Point's Internal Certificate Authority (ICA) enables all of the Check Point components to communicate securely with each other. This includes the SmartConsole management tools. One thing to be mindful of regarding Check Point security is the fact that a large number of the vulnerabilities occur at the OS level, not necessarily at the firewall software level. It is important to choose the correct OS for Check Point when planning your deployment. One of Check Point's main security strengths is in the VoIP area. It can be argued that Check Point is one of the better firewalls at handling the vast majority of VoIP protocols securely and with minimal disruption to the VoIP infrastructure. Performance: As Check Point is software loaded on a server with OS, the performance of the firewall is really dependant on these other factors as well as how Check Point fundamentally processes packets. In order to achieve maximum performance, Check Point still recommends the use of Nokia's big beefy IP2250 (costly). However, there are some SecurePlatform (Check Point's own hardened linux OS) Check Point recommended builds to achieve a good level of performance. There are also a number of features available to enhance the performance of Check Point including a performance pack, VPN accelerators etc, but these all come at an additional cost.
From personal experience, Check Point firewalls don't always deliver to
the "marketed" performance stats. Management: Without a doubt, unsurpassed management is Check Point's key strength and the reason why most organisations elect to use it. The SmartCenter management framework allows you to easily and securely manage one or multiple firewalls. Security policy development and deployment is simple. All the additional management components such as logging, licensing, software updating and monitoring are miles ahead of most other firewalling products. One of the niftiest things is the ability to management your perimeter Check Point firewalls and SecureClient Desktop policies from a single management console. But, once again, as Check Point firewalls are installed on an OS, the OS must also be maintained separately. This is not so much of an issue for SecurePlatform installations (and Nokia installations to a lesser extent). However, installation on any other OS require fairly comprehensive management of the underlying OS. Something which may end up being costly from a management and a maintenance perspective. However, I should mention that one of the benefits of an OS type platform is that it's more scalable. It's easy to add more interfaces, memory etc as you require it. But you will need to weigh this with the additional management burden (not to mention the increased risk of hardware faults due to more moving parts). VPN (Site to Site): Configuring VPN connectivity between a Check Point firewalls or with any other external firewall is generally a simple task. Check Point's flexible NATing features adds a lot of flexibility to VPN configuration. Check Point firewalls do lack some of the advanced site-to-site VPN features now seen on other firewalls (dynamic routing support and the like). VPN (remote access): Another major strength of Check Point firewalls. SecureClient is by far the most functional and robust VPN client available. The desktop firewall policy can be centrally configured and managed through SmartCenter. Additional policy checks to ensure users don't disable their firewalls as well as simple OS checks can also be performed to ensure maximum security. With the acquisition of Zone Labs some time ago, further functionality is being integrated into SecureClient to further enhance its security (more advanced firewalling and desktop IDP type functionality). Other nice features of SecureClient include their Secure Domain Login features (the ability for the VPN to be established before you logon to the domain, eliminating a number of user right issues traditionally plaguing VPN users). Some organisations need to manage a large number (100s to 1000s) of VPN client users, and as such, having a fat client on laptops often causes more administrative burden than it's worth. As such, SSL VPNs are gaining more popularity, and the benefit of Check Point firewalls is you can utilise both... at the same time. Most firewalls only support IPSec based VPNs and require a separate appliance for SSL VPNs. High Availability: There are two great features when it comes to HA/LB with Check Point firewalls. ClusterXL (Check Point's inhouse HA/LB module) provides simple to configure active/passive high availability as well as true clustered active/active load balancing. Despite some of its quirks, it's probably one of the better intrinsic firewall HA/LB solutions available. Secondly, Check Point's ISP Load Balancing features enable you to easily manage ISP redundancy at your perimeter without additional hardware. IDP: SmartDefense and WebDefense are the inbuilt IDP features available for Check Point firewalls. Though, not as feature rich as other firewalls, they provide sufficient attack mitigation of most types and for a good amount of protocols. Check Point also provides a separate appliance - InterSpect - for IDPesq functionality. Check Point firewalls, due to their OPSEC partnerships, are also compatible with a few Intrusion Detection/Prevention vendors. Support: I believe this is one of the most critical points when selecting a vendor. How well is your vendor going to be able to support you when you have a business critical issue? Check Point support is generally quite good, but it helps to be close to your local representatives (as their support is based out of Israel). Most issues can generally be resolved quite promptly. If electing to go with Nokia as the hardware platform, they also have excellent support for Check Point as well as their own product (saves you having to call Nokia and Check Point when trying to work out who's problem it is). Nice Fluffy Stuff: The latest version of Check Point (NGX) further refines the Check Point management architecture. It also includes enhancements to many VPN features as well as tweaks to SecurePlatform. I think going forward, with further integration of the Integrity suite (the previous Zone Labs stuff) we're going to see some enhanced desktop firewall and IDP client functionality. Another nice touch that most people aren't aware of is the StormCenter feature. This allows Check Point firewalls to obtain a dynamic list of blacklisted IP addresses from the SANS StormCenter which it can then apply to the security policy to ensure that these addresses are blocked off from your network. Now for NetScreen: ****************** Security: NetScreen is EAL4+ certified (do note, this is based on the older v4 firmware) and is a robust and secure firewall with very few vulnerabilities. As it is a self-contained ASIC based appliance, there is no security concern with managing the firewall and its underlying Operating System. NetScreen uses a proprietary firmware which is hardened. NetScreen firewalls also provide some interesting ways to enhance security at a routing level (through the use of their Virtual Router features) and also allows you to configure the firewall in layer 2 mode. Performance: NetScreen marketshare has exploded in the recent years purely based on price/feature/performance. Bang-for-buck, no enterprise firewall generally comes close to the performance delivered by a NetScreen. I've seen the enterprise model NetScreens clock up an exhorberant amount of connections without much of a scratch on the processor or memory. I know of many large organisations who bench marked a range of firewall products (including Check Point) and found that the NetScreen offered the best performance regarding the number of connections it could handle. Management: NetScreen management is simple, if not a bit rudimentary. There is the basic command line (console, telnet or SSH), or Web based management (HTTP or HTTPS). The only way to manage multiple NetScreen is so have several laptops in parallel (kidding) or use NetScreen Security Manager (NSM) - NetScreen's centralised management platform. NSM is feature rich, provides a lot of functionality (remote upgrades, global policies, software updating, advanced reporting) but it does come at a significant cost. NetScreens come in a variety of models such as the lower hardware fixed appliances, and the high-end modular systems. The key benefits of an appliance is reliability (especially from a hardware perspective). However, you will need to be careful when selecting your platform to ensure that it can scale with your business requirements. VPN (Site to Site): NetScreens are one of the most universally IPSec VPNable (is that even a word?) devices. Almost any other firewall can talk with a NetScreen (and this is important if you need to setup multiple VPNs with different partners/suppliers). NetScreen also offer very advanced VPN features (dynamic routing, hub-spoke, full-meshing) as well as intrinsic VPN redundancy features. VPN (remote access): This is unfortunately one of the weaker areas of the NetScreen. The VPN client is your run-of-the-mill SafeVPN client (used by numerous other vendors) and doesn't provide much functionality (though it does do the trick). The Sygate Personal Firewall OEMed with the more expensive version of NetScreen's VPN Client is a nice feature, but generally not useable for your non-IT users who may not understand much about handling desktop firewalls. The version of Sygate personal firewall cannot be centrally managed either (a real pain if you ask me). High Availability: While NetScreens provide excellent active/passive HA functionality, they fall way short in the active/active area. Configuration of active/active requires some significant network restructuring and as such, is generally not recommended. >:) However, like previously mentioned, the active/passive stuff works a treat. IDP: NetScreen was one of the first appliance firewalls to introduce an IDP (called Deep Packet Inspection on NetScreens) module. Through the use of a subscription, signatures are regularly updated. By default, the IDP comes with a whole raft of signatures and protocol anomaly checks. One of the benefits of DPI is the ability for you to easily craft your own signatures. You are correct in saying that NetScreen have a separate IDP appliance, but it is not cross functional with the NetScreen firewall. Though there is a new IDP coming out soon which is very similar to the firewall line (ASIC based etc) and it would be good to see some integration between the two. Support: I've had plenty of experience with NetScreen and Juniper support, and am thankful to say that it's gotten a lot better since NetScreen was acquired by Juniper. Their support staff are generally very knowledgeable and prompt. Nice Fluffy Stuff: One of the main selling points of a NetScreen is price, especially considering it includes HA/LB features, bandwidth management and IDP features for free. ****** In summary, we (we as in VeriSign) provide Managed Services for both products and have experienced the benefits and challenges of both. For organisations where money is of less concern but desire a management rich and integrated security solution, then I would definitely recommend the Check Point option. However, if price/security/performance is more along the lines of your purchasing decision, then the NetScreen solution rarely disappoints. Hope this helps. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you require any further assistance. Regards, Jason Ha [CISSP, CCSE, JNCIS-FWV] Senior Security Engineer, Security Operations Centre VeriSign Asia Pacific E: jha@verisign.com.au W: www.verisign.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Rossen S. Naydenov [mailto:rnaydenov@postbank.bg] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:41 PM To: firewalls Subject: Checkpoint vs. Juniper Netscreen Hi, I have gone down to two choices: Checkpoint or Juniper Netscreen Firewalls Both solutions meet our technical requirements. I would like to here from people who are using these devices. How are they integrated in IDP network scheme? I know that Juniper offers their own IDP module. In terms of manageability which one is better? How about scalability? Thanks in advance ;) -- Rossen S. Naydenov rnaydenov@postbank.bg Disclaimer: This communication is confidential. 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