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| Subject: | RE: Software vs hardware firewalls ... |
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| Date: | Sun, 8 May 2005 23:05:15 +1000 |
Hey There, Interesting analysis... But perhaps these comments can give you a different perspective on it: You seem to be comparing a desktop firewall solution (a firewall installed on a laptop/desktop/server) to a gateway firewall solution. The key to security is really defence-in-depth, so in an ideal world where corporate budgets may not be restrained, then both solutions together would be great. Most organisations would really only have perimeter protection (a gateway firewall) between the Internet and their internal network. This is a standard method of keeping most nasties from coming in (from the Internet) and does a so-so job of keeping bad traffic from going out (depending on how strict the security policy is). One thing a gateway firewall solution doesn't do is protect your internal hosts from each other. Take for example a laptop user who, after allowing their kids ample time to download all sorts of "interesting" stuff over the weekend plugs their laptop back into the corporate network. The difference this time is that they're laptop is infected with a virus/worm and begins propagating to all other machines on the internal network. The gateway firewall won't be able to do much for you in this instance. Though it is true that desktop firewalls can sometimes be at the mercy of vulnerabilities in the Operating System (and even cause vulnerabilities in some instances), it can't be denied that they assist in mitigating _most_ of the vulnerabilities of an Operating System using various methods. This includes blocking of typically vulnerable ports that are unnecessary and blocking unauthorised outbound connections (such as instances where the machine may be infected). More advanced desktop firewalls are also capable of providing hooks into procedure calls to protect the Operating System from being buffer overflowed (as an example). Most importantly though, in a centralised policy environment, an administrator can enforce a security policy on all machines, restricting the type of connections allowed to and from as well as the applications that can be executed. One other major benefit of a desktop firewall is that they can protect laptop users when they are at home and away from the gateway firewall protection provided by being in the office. So at the end of the day, there isn't exactly a direct comparison and the use of both security solutions (if it can be afforded) is recommended. The general benefits of having a desktop (what you were referring to as a software firewall) outweigh the rare vulnerabilities that they may cause. Regards, Jason Ha [CISSP, CCSE, JNCIS-FWV] Senior Security Engineer, Security Operations Centre VeriSign Asia Pacific -----Original Message----- From: netnut6@comcast.net [mailto:netnut6@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:31 AM To: firewalls@securityfocus.com Subject: Software vs hardware firewalls ... Hello, I was wondering how a software based firewall(mcafee, Norton etc) can help protect your machine if the operating system(Windows XP) is vulnerable? Also how is a software based firewall any better then hardware. The way I see it if you have a software based firewall and the operating system has security issues I doubt very much a software firewall will protect that machine.whereas if it's a hardware based firewall and the operating system has vulnerabilities the chances of it being attacked are slim since they would have to first find some vulnerability with the hardware firewall then go after the operating system(firewall default settings with all ports closed). Obviously if a port is open and that application has a vulnerability then it would get attacked. Please let me know if I'm on the right track here. Thank you..
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