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| Subject: | RE: Security Information Management versus Security Network Management applications |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:21:06 -0700 |
Phil,
All:
Since I work for a SIM vendor, I think it is a mischaracterization of the sector's value proposition to describe the end results of a deployment as simply " ... do some basic correlation and produce nice pretty graphs."
Depending on the SIM - and capabilities / approaches do vary greatly by vendor - there is a great deal more than "basic" correlation. For example, more mature solutions can correlate events with vulnerability scans (ISSA members can read an article on vulnerability correlation by Joe Minieri, one of Open's engineers in a recent ISSA journal article, http://www.issa.org/cgi/journallibrary.cgi?library=2004_November&file_in dex=0 (ISSA membership required to view) ). The article reveals a lot about how much work goes on into mapping vulnerabilities to IDS events.
Other approaches include risk-based analysis of events based on asset vulnerability, value, attack source and criticality, and other metrics that you can define.
The point of all this is not merely to put up a pretty graph or two. The point is to pull the threat signal from the log noise, ideally before a compromise or DOS has been effected so that you can choose how and when to manage it. Result: chase fewer false alarms (and find some false negatives to boot: we *always* find live security issues that our customers weren't aware of), focus on the highest risk events, and ultimately make your organization more secure.
A well implemented SIM allows you to manage all your alerts from a single front end, integrate with NMS consoles if that's the way your organizations works, and yes -- get simplified, accurate, business and security oriented reports that will enable you to explain what happened to management without either of you getting too great a headache. Some SIMs will also allow you to review your risk offline based on vulnerability scans, so you can target mitigation / VM more precisely. Simply aggregating events really isn't correlation (if anyone cares I've a "SIM Semantics" section at open.com which is available w/o registration at http://www.open.com/resources/insights/SIM-semantics.jsp - I think there's a lot of confusion (and worse) associated with the term "correlation" ).
"Security Network Management" is a new term for me (please, no, not another TLA to add to the SIM / SEM alphabet soup :-) Pretty much all SIMs will allow you to automate some degree of remediation if that's what you want to do. Some SIM vendors are working to add policy compliance violation monitoring to their threat dashboards. You'll find that all the vendors in the space - including us - have white papers on compliance issues such as SOX and HIPAA.
I hope this helps
FWIW
Phil Hollows VP Marketing OpenService, Inc. 110 Turnpike Road, Suite 308 Westborough, MA 01581 http://www.open.com
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Teicher [mailto:mht3@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:45 PM To: firewalls@securityfocus.com Subject: Security Information Management versus Security Network Management applications
Is there a big difference between Security Information Management applications versus Security Network Management applications? How do they work in live environments versus development environments ? What is the
price point per end device? Resiliency and Persistence?? A Security Information Management application is an application that can
extract logs from various commercial/non-commercial applications via SNMP, syslog or some proprietary format, do some basic correlation and produce
nice pretty graphs. A Security Network Management application allows entities to manage their security applications from one unified front end. Some Security Network
Management applications sometimes include a vulnerability or security policy engine to ensure the managed devices are secure or something in the policy is compliant with the various compliance policies that entities must adhere too.
/thx
/mht
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