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RE: Fragmented Packet

Subject: RE: Fragmented Packet
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:17:40 -0600
Joe, 
 
There's not enough information there to tell you exactly what is going on.
I can tell you this -- not all fragmented traffic is necessarily malicious.
To start, you really need to consider what is at the destination address,
and find out exactly why those two hosts might need to communicate.  What
UDP services does the destination host offer that the outside host might
want to access?  
 
Some types of traffic are prone to fragmentation(NFS, for an example), and
it can happen normally in certain circumstances such as differing MTU sizes.
Since the firewall is new, you might be simply seeing something that has
always been happening and now you are just now noticing it.  What I'm saying
is, you need to gather a little bit more information before you can
definitively determine what is going on.  
 
Do you have any other log entries that might point to the particular UDP
port numbers that these hosts might be using to communicate with one
another?
 
 
Shane Mahon
Internet Operations Manager
Newsstand, Inc.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Grinnell [mailto:joe.grinnell@axisci.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:59 PM
To: firewalls@securityfocus.com
Subject: Fragmented Packet



Hi,  I'm pretty new to firewalls and have just installed a SonicWALL Pro230
with all the default settings.  Anyway, I'm starting to see a lot of
activity to a few different PC's in my DMZ from the below source.  Anyone
know what the heck is going on here?  Any help would be very much
appreciated.

11/16/2004 03:05:46.816 - Fragmented Packet Dropped - Source: 83.102.166.24,
17, WAN - Destination: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, DMZ - Protocol: 17 -

11/16/2004 03:08:46.816 - Fragmented Packet Dropped - Source: 83.102.166.53,
17, WAN - Destination: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, DMZ - Protocol: 17 -

11/16/2004 03:16:46.816 - Fragmented Packet Dropped - Source: 83.102.166.84,
17, WAN - Destination: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, DMZ - Protocol: 17 -

11/16/2004 03:23:46.816 - Fragmented Packet Dropped - Source:
83.102.166.204, 17, WAN - Destination: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, DMZ - Protocol: 17 -

Thanks in advance.  I really need to get my learn on.

Joe Grinnell
network security wannabe

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