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RE: Router config question

Subject: RE: Router config question
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:12:37 -0600
Perhaps I am mistaken for the majority of PIX firewall products, but on 
the ones I have touched (515, 515e, 535), I just type in:

 no access-list blah line 13 permit ip whatever 

That command gets rid of line 13... without having to re-enter the entire 
ACL at any time.  Line 14 now becomes line 13.  If there was no line 13, 
then the ACL ends at line 12.  You can also insert lines the same way, by 
inserting at a line number

access-list blah line 13 permit tcp any any eq http

And that would enter in the new rule in "blah" at line 13.  Whatever was 
at 13 is now at 14, and so forth.  Whatever was at 12 stays at line 12.






"Chris Morse" <chris.morse@planexpress.net> 
11/09/2004 11:12 PM

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RE: Router config question






I have to ask, perhaps out of sheer ignorance; Why use Acces-list? Cisco 
pushed them in an effort to depracate conduits, but I can enter conduits 
on the fly, wothout re-entering the entire ACL everytime. I really want 
outside input on this. Got a few big configs to move. Your thoughts?

From: Chad [mailto:chad@mr-lew.com]
Sent: Mon 11/8/2004 9:07 PM
To: 'Eric McCarty'; 'Dennis Dimka'; 'Dan Tesch'; 'Firewalls Securityfocus'
Subject: RE: Router config question

Actually, shouldn't it read more like this:
 
Access-list 110 permit tcp any 10.0.1.10 255.255.255.255 eq 80
Access-list 110 permit tcp any 10.0.1.11 255.255.255.255 eq 25
Access-list 110 deny ip any any
Of course you would catch it when you hit enter on the router... ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric McCarty [mailto:eric@piteduncan.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:22 PM
To: Dennis Dimka; Dan Tesch; Firewalls Securityfocus
Subject: RE: Router config question

Erm... Shouldn't this read :
Access-list 110 permit tcp 80 10.0.1.10 255.255.255.255
Access-list 110 permit tcp 25 10.0.1.11 255.255.255.255
Access-list 110 deny ip any any
And as stated before those ACL Entries were for a bug in Cisco's ISO 
Software, if you are running the most current IOS Version for your Router, 
the issue has been long fixed and you no longer need those ACL's. However 
if you are running your router as a router & Firewall in one you should 
definately consider Dennis's advice and remove all ACL's and add only 
permits for what you need (web, ssh, ftp, etc. etc.) and allow the 
implicit deny all to drop the rest.
 
Eric McCarty


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Dimka [mailto:dennis.dimka@manna.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:28 PM
To: 'Dan Tesch'; Firewalls Securityfocus
Subject: RE: Router config question

This is a little sloppy.  If you don't have a dedicated firewall (and the
2611 is essentially your firewall) you should allow only what you need in, 
and deny the rest.  Not only is this leaps and bounds more secure, it 
mitigates the need to deny specific ports.  For example, if you have a 
public mail and a public web server and email server...

Access-list 110 permit tcp 80 10.0.1.10 255.255.255.255 Access-list 110 
permit tcp 24 10.0.1.11 255.255.255.255 Access-list 110 deny ip any any

The last line is already implied at the end of any access list, but having 
it in your ACL reminds you of this, and also shows you a HITCOUNT.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Tesch [mailto:dan.tesch@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:23 AM
To: Firewalls Securityfocus
Subject: Router config question

Hello, I inherited a Cisco 2611 that I have been trying to clean up and 
understand the config on.

For a while I have been wondering why the following were being 
specifically blocked...

access-list 110 deny   53 any any
access-list 110 deny   55 any any
access-list 110 deny   77 any any
access-list 110 deny   pim any any

I was doing some reading trying to learn about PIM and found this link 
which references a DOS vuln.

http://securecomputing.stanford.edu/alerts/cisco-update-17jul2003.html

Was this a way to circumvent the listed vuln.?  the doc references IOS 
below 12.3, as I am now above that - may I safely remove these denys?

Thanks

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