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RE: 1 VPN client only through PIX

Subject: RE: 1 VPN client only through PIX
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:21:42 -0500
The 2004 ISA firewall would allow per user authentication on site to
site VPN tunnels so that each branch office user must authenticate
before being given access to a particular server and a particular
protocol on a server at the main office, or any of the branch offices,
if you choose to allow routes from one branch office to another.

HTH,

Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Mahon [mailto:smahon@newsstand.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:18 PM
To: 'Wozny, Scott (US - New York)'; Chris Tyler;
firewalls@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: 1 VPN client only through PIX


PIX 506E supports 25 simultaneous site-to-site or remote access VPN
peers.
Setting up a site-to-site between the PIX and a 3000-series concentrator
is
fairly straightforward.  That would be the easiest way to solve this
problem, but it wouldn't provide for individual authentication of users
like
using the software option on each PC would. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Wozny, Scott (US - New York) [mailto:swozny@deloitte.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:42 AM
To: Chris Tyler; firewalls@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: 1 VPN client only through PIX


You can set up the concentrator to terminate IPSec tunnels 
encapsulated in another PATable protocol but the key is to 
make sure the client station is originating tunnels in that 
protocol too.  If I were in your shoes the first thing I'd do 
is get a trace of the client attempting to make a connection 
to make sure it really was IPSec inside UDP it was using to 
make the requests.  

Alternatively, I'm not sure if the 506E is capable of it, but 
in a situation like this I'd be tempted to set up a site to 
site tunnel to avoid dealing with the headache of client 
software (unless you're in an insecure operating environment 
like wireless or shared infrastructure).

Good luck,

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Tyler [mailto:chris.tyler@inatpower.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:33 AM
To: firewalls@securityfocus.com
Subject: 1 VPN client only through PIX


We have remote Cisco VPN clients 4.0.2, connecting through a 
PIX 506E which is doing PAT, attaching to Cisco VPN 
concentrator . The first client can connect fine but no other 
users can then connect and no traffic is seen at the 
concentrator. I cannot access the remote PIX but from what I 
have seen if you disconnect the client and wait for the 
translate to clear another client can then connect. My 
assumption waS/is that this is an IPSec and PAT problem on 
the PIX. I therefore enabled both IPsec over UDP and IPSec 
with NAT-T on the concentrator and had the relevant ports on 
the PIX opened up however this does not appear to have solved 
the problem.

Any ideas gratefully received.

Chris

Chris Tyler


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