Ethical Hacking Training at InfoSec Institute Learn to find vulnerabilities before the bad guys do! Gain real world hands on hacking experience in our state of the art hacking lab. Course designed and taught by expert instructors with years of penetration testing experience. 12 student maximum in every class. Certification attempt included in every package. | Computer Forensics Training at InfoSec Institute Gain the in-demand skills of a certified computer examiner, learn to recover trace data left behind by fraud, theft, and cybercrime perpetrators. Discover the source of computer crime and abuse at your organization so that it never happens again. All of our class sizes are guaranteed to be 12 students or less to facilitate one-on-one interaction with one of our expert instructors. |

| Subject: | Re: Re: Data Recovery |
|---|---|
| Date: | Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:01:54 -0800 |
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 01:27:29PM -0000, bsmathers@reypd.com wrote:
I agree. It is more of a myth then reality. Physically, the magnetic fluxes have been changed when the data is overwritten. Then, only the new data patterns will be read. Although it may seem possible, I have never seen or heard of it being done successfully. All of the data recovery companies I've seen always claim some form of physical, logical, or deleted data recovery and not specifically overwritten data recovery.
One thing which might be of interest here: in the old days, with smaller drives and older technology, data was stored on the drive in a much more discrete fashion: "there's a 1" and "there's a 0" (as seen by the spook-type tools). It may well have been straightforward - but tedious - to get back overwritten data for these kinds of devices. But modern drives operating in the hundreds of gigabytes use much, much more advanced magnetic mechanisms that do things like overlapping of bits which require statistical methods to recover. This is to get back *their own* bits which have not been overwritten. ECC is at the center of this universe here. I once talked with a Western Digital firmware engineer, who told me that the push for higher/cheaper capacity and performance has required acts of magnetics that are just on the edge of violating the laws of physics. It would be wise to check the publication date and reported drive capacity before extrapolating from previous efforts to modern products. Steve -- Stephen J Friedl | Security Consultant | UNIX Wizard | +1 714 544-6561 www.unixwiz.net | Tustin, Calif. USA | Microsoft MVP | steve@unixwiz.net
| <Prev in Thread] | Current Thread | [Next in Thread> |
|---|---|---|
| ||
| Previous by Date: | RE: GUID Partition Table (GPT) Recovery, Baker, Dave |
|---|---|
| Next by Date: | RE: Data Recovery, Steve Hickey |
| Previous by Thread: | Re: Re: Data Recovery, bsmathers |
| Next by Thread: | RE: Data Recovery, Greg Kelley |
| Indexes: | [Date] [Thread] [Top] [All Lists] |