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RE: Data Recovery

Subject: RE: Data Recovery
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:21:51 -0000
The pages are opened in a frame: however,
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/shopper/features/85694/recovery-position/page1.ht
ml through page6.html.
You may well have to register to access the full article.

Selective overwriting is difficult - the issues with PGP identified by
Vinnie Liu  www.metasploit.com/research/vulns/pgp_slackspace/ are a
perfect example.

There is some very interesting technology out there to look at disks -
there is a paper on Magnetic Force Microscopy (MFM) by A.M. Alexeev and
A.F.Popkov, NT-MDT & State Institute for Physical Problems, Moscow,
which has some great illustrations of what data on a disk actually
'looks' like
http://www.ntmdt.ru/SPM-Techniques/SPM-Methodology/Magnetic_Force_Micros
copy_MFM/text45.html.

Leaving aside the issue of whether data can be recovered, and assuming
for the sake of argument that it can be, the issue with data recovery of
this type is that it is data: binary magnetic information.  The data is
only meaningful when interpreted through an application(s) which
understands the construct.  There are still big challenges with file
carving from data where the construct is known, as Simson can be the
first to tell you -
http://www.dfrws.org/2006/challenge/submissions/index.html - although
the state of the art is still improving.

Meaningful artefact identification from recovered data would be a
tremendous task, even if a complete, contiguous recovery was possible.
To extract meaning from a fragmentary recovery of a series of binary
transitions  110101     01110111 01101 10 1  10   111 1101101
0110110110110110110 etc could be a Sisyphean task. 

Regards,

Mark

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-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce@securityfocus.com [mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com]
On Behalf Of Simson Garfinkel
Sent: 30 October 2006 19:48
To: Russell Aspinwall
Cc: forensics@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Data Recovery

Please post the full URL of the article.

It is quite possible that disk erasing programs do not delete the data.
But this is almost certainly the result of a bug with the programs in
question. It is quite difficult to selectively overwrite certain files
on a hard drive --- remnants of the files are left in non-obvious
locations (like swap space). However, it is quite easy to overwrite the
entire contents of a hard drive. To date, that has NEVER been a public
demonstration of data recovered after it was overwritten.


On Oct 26, 2006, at 4:20 AM, Russell Aspinwall wrote:

In response to data recovery after 57+ formats query

The UK magazine Computer Shopper carried a feature article "Recovery 
Position" in its March 2006 issue, which can be found here 
http://www.computershopper.co.uk and search for Recovery Position.
It appears that disk erasing programs do not delete the data, if you 
have the right tools for recovery; however a hammer does work.

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Russell

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