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RE: Data Recovery

Subject: RE: Data Recovery
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:38:39 -0700
My impression of this article is a non-expert piece aimed at consumer-level 
users with little knowledge of sophistication in computers.  The cases he cites 
are all simple slack-space or unallocated-space recovery after simple file 
operations.  It has nothing to do with "disk erasing programs".  The one 
researcher who claims to have read data did so after the drive was overwritten 
with zero-bits.  

A program executing a DoD 7-pass wipe (or a Gutman 35-pass if you're paranoid) 
of the data, bit-for-bit, is likely impossible to recover from, even using the 
STM methods.  As Gutman says in his paper, it is impossible to determine if a 
sector's data was overwritten before or after the original data and a 7-pass 
structured overwrite is unlikely to leave significant magnetic or visual traces 
of the original data.  Even if it does, it is unlikely you will be able to 
determine which of the 8-10 possible data bits you retrieve are actually the 
real data.

The only interesting comments in this article revolve around the bad sector 
remapping.  The DoD erase standards do not cover this topic, thought a number 
of discussions have revolved around it and some utilities are available to do 
random-data multi-pass secure deletion including g-list sectors. 

http://www.storagenetworking.org/Discussion/forum_posts.asp?TID=59&PN=1

http://www.morgud.com/reviews/software/MES.asp

http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/Hughes/SecureErase.html


UCSD has some recent research that suggests, while a single-pass zero-bit 
overwrite may be recoverable with specialized hardware, a multi-pass, randome 
overwrite with data is not.  The researcher producing some of these papers can 
be found here:

http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/Hughes/subpgset.htm


Interesting information to be found, but mostly in the realm of science-fiction.

Frankly, from my reading, it's probably less secure to use a sledgehammer than 
to use a good secure deletion program.   Now something like a blast furnace, or 
a a thermite cap.....  that would be secure....

Eric

  

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:listbounce@securityfocus.com]On Behalf Of Russell Aspinwall
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:20 AM
To: forensics@securityfocus.com
Subject: Data Recovery


In response to data recovery after 57+ formats query

The UK magazine Computer Shopper carried a feature article "Recovery 
Position" in its March 2006 issue, which can be found here
http://www.computershopper.co.uk and search for Recovery Position. It 
appears that disk erasing programs do not delete the data, if you have 
the right tools for recovery; however a hammer does work.

-- 
Regards

Russell

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