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RE: Determine if data has been stolen from a stolen hdd.

Subject: RE: Determine if data has been stolen from a stolen hdd.
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 16:09:46 +0100
Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology currently supports
EIDE and SATA drives, but not I believe, SCSI or RAID.  There are a
number of fields which might provide an indication that a drive has been
spun up, and/or read: 

ID      Hex     Attribute name

04      04      Start/Stop Count
09      09      Power-On Hours (POH)
12      0C      Device Power Cycle Count
193     C1      Load/Unload Cycle
222     DE      Loaded Hours
223     DF      Load/Unload Retry Count
226     E2      Load 'In'-time
228     E4      Power-Off Retract Cycle

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring,_Analysis_and_Reporting_Tec
hnology.  

There was a discussion on this some time ago - see
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/104/400854/30/420/threaded, which
started out of an interesting paper on this - SMART ANTI-FORENSICS,
Steven McLeod, May 2005.

Mark Brewis

Technical Manager (UK) Forensic Services - UK IMEA

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-----Original Message-----
From: visitbipin@hotmail.com [mailto:visitbipin@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 03 July 2006 17:33
To: forensics@securityfocus.com
Subject: Determine if data has been stolen from a stolen hdd.

hello list,
I have a question thats more of a cueriosity that came from the recent
case Ref [1]

Situation:
Suppose a hard disk gets stolen & is recovered after a certain time. The
normal forensics reveal no hints of any foreign body atempting to copy
the data from the hdd. (PHYSICALLY)

But from a "Digital Forensic Standpoint" what are the other things that
should be examined before concluding no data was ACTUALLY STOLEN?

The way I know even if the theaf is using "write blocker"
(software/BIOS/external-hardware) it won't help him IF the harddisk
itself stores FEW logs of "last access times" etc! (I really don't know
something like that really exists) DOES SOMETHING SIMILAR EXIST that
could help in forensic examination to determine if data has been
stolen???

The only thing i know is if you have any software that monitors
S.M.A.R.T failure of hdd ( & keeps log of the S.M.A.R.T record)
comparing the S.M.A.R.T smart parameter from the log of

"power on time" (in hrs) before & after the theft maybe the only
possibility (i can think of) to determine if any data was
stolen/copied!!!

WHAT ELSE?

Ref [1], VA Laptop, GIAC & Other Mail
http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/security/investigator/archives/va-laptop-giac
-other-mail-10246


Best Regards,
-bipin
http://www.bipin.tk






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