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RE: mactimes

Subject: RE: mactimes
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:11:31 +0100
Let's clear up this:
        - The atime field is updated each time the pointer to the file's data 
blocks is followed and the file's data is read.
        - The mtime field is updated each time the file's data changes.
        - The ctime field is updated each time the file's inode changes. 

There is NO WAY under standard Unises to get a file's creation time ! Well, 
AFAIK !

The atime and mtime can easily be changed (for instance under Perl, just use 
the utime() function) , but there is no (simple) way to change the ctime:  as a 
file is a series of 0 and 1, it should be possible to forge the right series to 
match our hack :)



-----Message d'origine-----
De : Potter, Timothy [mailto:Timothy.F.Potter@pjc.com] 
Envoyé : mercredi 10 novembre 2004 17:30
À : forensics@securityfocus.com
Objet : mactimes

If mactimes can easily be modified by a hacker, then would I know, and how 
would mactimes be utilized in court?

I have a Microsoft Excel file on a fat12 floppy disk.
Here are the mactimes:

modified: 9/28/2004 @ 9:12AM CST
accessed: 9/29/2004 @ 4:38PM CST
created: 10/1/2004 @ 1:12 AM

So, how can the created time be later than the last modified time?? This 
doesn't help in establishing a clear timeline of events.. Thanks, -Tim



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