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| Subject: | RE: Ever seen a dead-man switch? |
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| Date: | Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:58:18 -0500 |
This term comes from the old steaming machines, the operator must always be pushing a handle, if the operator dies for any rason the push ends and the machine stops. Ing. Fco. Javier Otero De Alba Diplomado en Seguridad Informática ITESM CEM ITStrap Product Manager Juniper Secure Access SSL 5243-4782 al 84 Ext.300 México, D.F. -----Mensaje original----- De: steven@pollards.us [mailto:steven@pollards.us] Enviado el: Martes, 19 de Octubre de 2004 01:07 p.m. Para: Lachniet, Mark CC: William Bressler; t. elam; Victor Hugo Menegotto; forensics@securityfocus.com Asunto: Re: Ever seen a dead-man switch? A dead man's switch is a device that must be reset every so often. If someone fails to reset it, it's assumed the operator is dead and the device starts a process. In the case of a computer, it emails certain people, deletes and encrypts specific files and directories, and other such stuff it's nothing more then a BAT file. Steven "Lachniet, Mark" <mlachniet@sequoianet.com> wrote ..
Out of curiosity, has anyone *ever* seen one (a dead man switch) in the field? I know its something that can be done, and a risk, but I can't say I've ever heard a report of finding one. Just curious. Seems like every time your DSL or cable modem flaked out, your hard drive would get formatted :) Considering my local service, that would mean a lot of OS re-installs. Thanks, Mark Lachniet-----Original Message----- From: William Bressler [mailto:William.Bressler@gnostech.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:27 AM To: 't. elam'; 'Victor Hugo Menegotto' Cc: forensics@securityfocus.com Subject: RE: RFC 3227 - Evidence Collection =20 One danger in removing a network cable is the potential for a=20 "dead man" switch, which could encrypt/delete data if the network=20 connection or other shutdown trigger happens. =20 William Bressler Senior Systems Engineer Gnostech Inc. 215-443-8660 x11 -----Original Message----- From: t. elam [mailto:tee@speakeasy.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:10 PM To: Victor Hugo Menegotto Cc: forensics@securityfocus.com Subject: Re: RFC 3227 - Evidence Collection =20 =20 hi victor, =20 my best guess would be general evidence preservation techniques which could as specific as removing network cables from a system to a more general approach to evidence handling that involves a locked storage facility, loggin procedures, sealed evidence, etc. in other words, doing your best to control access to the evidence such that it isn't altered. =20 i am sure other have ideas as well ... :). =20 cheers, t =20 =20 On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Victor Hugo Menegotto wrote: =20Does anyone know what the phrase "Remove external avenues=20for change" mean?This phrase is located on chapter 2 of the RFC 3227 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3227.html Thanks in advance. Att. Victor Hugo Menegotto, Axur Information Security Porto Alegre - RS - Brasil Tel.: +55 (51) 3222 2874 www.axur.com.br <http://www.axur.com.br/>=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus ARIS analyzer service. For more information on this free incident handling, management=20 and tracking system please see: http://aris.securityfocus.com =20 =20 ----------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus ARIS analyzer service. For more information on this free incident handling, management=20 and tracking system please see: http://aris.securityfocus.com =20 =20----------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus ARIS analyzer service. For more information on this free incident handling, management and tracking system please see: http://aris.securityfocus.com
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