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| Subject: | Re: Ever seen a dead-man switch? |
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| Date: | Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:52:08 +0200 |
Greetings!
On Tuesday 19 October 2004 08:39 am, Lachniet, Mark wrote:Out of curiosity, has anyone *ever* seen one (a dead man switch) in the field? I know its something that can be done, and a risk, but I can't say I've ever heard a report of finding one. Just curious. Seems like every time your DSL or cable modem flaked out, your hard drive would get formatted :) Considering my local service, that would mean a lot of OS re-installs.
Various - though I would not call them "dead-man-switch". I've seen "dead-process-switches" more often, where e.g. the master process kills the remains of the hanging one and restarts that one anew. Back to the "dead man" - and very simple implementations: I've seen appliances/firewalls that boot from a removable medium - sometimes to the extent that they boot and wait for removal before really starting. Power loss (for whatever reason) means reboot - which will fail without boot medium of course. Getting hold of the config will not bee too easy on a RAM-only system, either. Examples are: Linux floppy-routers (fli4l.de et al.), SuSe Firewall-on-CD (no longer produced), Firestick.de firewall, ... This gone to extremes would be a (removable-boot) linux system with iptables shut down into HALT state. The kernel will still be forwarding packets, but you'll have a really hard time trying to pry around in that system as nothing else will run... The other (simplistic) implementation is mounting a filesystem on cryptoloop or cryptfs. Power off or reset and the key (in RAM) is gone and the data (presumably) safe. And of course we all know the (locking) screen saver: do noting for N minutes and the screen will be locked. An advanced combination would be e.g. XAUTOLOCK with SHUTDOWN/poweroff configured as "screensaver" and a cryptoloop and you got a reasonable dead-man-switch for securing your data. Bye Volker Tanger ITK Security ----------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus ARIS analyzer service. For more information on this free incident handling, management and tracking system please see: http://aris.securityfocus.com
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