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RE: Securely wiping a "dead" usb pen drive

Subject: RE: Securely wiping a "dead" usb pen drive
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:36:34 +0100
you can either do two things
1. call the manufacturer and ask how they handle repairs and ask for
written policy on what they claim.
2. destroy the unit

Is all the time debating etc... worth the cost of the unit....


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Stowell [mailto:jts@deforest.k12.wi.us] 
Sent: 30 September 2004 14:39
To: jpippin@nc.rr.com; forensics@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Securely wiping a "dead" usb pen drive


Maybe you could get them to sign an NDA...  :-)

Microwave should destroy everything, but the manufacturer 
will notice when all the chips have their traces blown out.

If the flash is what's busted (and obviously the firmware and 
microcontroller work, otherwise you wouldn't have a usb 
storage-class device :-), your data could easily have been 
mapped out by the firmware as being in a bad sector, and 
therefore untouchable by you. Google found no way to bypass 
that. But my google-fu is weak today...

Good luck,

Tom






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"jpippin" <jpippin@nc.rr.com> 09/28/04 08:20PM >>>
Anyone have any idea how to wipe a solid state, lipstick 
sized usb drive before returning it to the manufacturer for a 
replacement? The drive stopped responding while performing a 
complete file encryption of the data using the manufacturer's 
software. I have no reason to believe that everything was 
actually encrpyted before we hit a nonresponsive state. The 
drive still shows up when plugged into any usb port, but 
browsing gives an error and a notice that the drive must be 
formatted to continue - which doesn't work, either.

This usb drive holds company data and two credit card 
numbers, and although we can no longer access the 
information, it is still seen by the OSes, which forces me to 
infer a potential security risk if the manufacturer can still 
read the data. It's not worth the $100 loss for a new one if 
I can't be reasonable sure it's unreadable. That said, is 
there a decent option to wipe such an inaccessable device? 
Magnets won't work on eeprom chips that I'm aware, and 
microwave seems kinda questionable, so I'm open for 
suggestions. Thanks.

Joel





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