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reading Apple floppies (was: 5.25 Inch Disk Data Recovery)

Subject: reading Apple floppies (was: 5.25 Inch Disk Data Recovery)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:09:03 -0400
All from memory. Assuming they're Apple --

The original format was 35 cylinders, 13 sectors per cylinder, 256 bytes 
per
sector (116480 bytes/disk).
Then thru a firmware upgrade to the diskdrive controller card, the
sector/cylinder went from 13 to 16 (143360 bytes/disk).

Apple had a variety of operating systems for 5-1/4.
dos 3.2
dos 3.3
ProDOS - latest rev was 1.9
I think GS/OS was for Apple 3.5 drives
They also could be CP/M-based (which also worked in Apple via a Z80 
cpu-card)

If it's not copy-protected, and if the contents haven't succumbed to 
bit-rot,
then it can be read - but not by a PC floppy (360/720/1.2). You need an 
Apple
II, a floppy controller, & 1 Apple floppy drive (preferrably 2) - 1 for 
boot
media, & 1 for the disk(s) you need to read.

Of course, after you're able to read it, you'll want to copy the contents
(like to a x86 platform). For that, an Apple "Super Serial Card" is needed
(19.2kbps max) + modem software.

The keyboard is built-in. The video is RCA composite "banana-plug". Attach 
to
just about any TV or VCR. Text display is either 40x24 (or 80x24 with a 
Apple
80-column card -- Apple IIe specific).

Graphics mode is 16-color 48x40 (lo-res) or 8-color 192x280 (hi-res).

I have several of these (working, but not in use). I just can't bring 
myself
to throw away functional hardware. I still use my 1st Apple II (since 
1985).
I upgraded it with a 40MB hard drive & 3MB ram (default is 64 or 128k). I 
use
it for my checkbook & tense up every time I have to turn it off - for fear
that the drive won't spin up again.

If you want to try recovery yourself, let me know & I can provide you the
hardware (minus the modem) <$20.

Or I can try to read your disks - no charge. & copy the contents to a 
floppy,
cd, or zip.

Let me know.
--
Tom Picray, Unix Sysadm/Secadm & long-time Apple user.
tom.picray.b@bayer.com
513.755.6795 (Cincinnati area)
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sety martin <wearing_a_greyhat@yahoo.com>
08/23/2004 10:47 AM

 
        To:     forensics@securityfocus.com
        cc: 
        Subject:        5.25 Inch Disk Data Recovery


Hi all,

I would appreciate any help in trying to resolve a
problem I am having.

I am trying to recover data from some 5.25 inch disks.
 They came off an older Apple system. (Apple 2?).

I have tried using dd, Ghost, Encase, FTK, Winhex and
Norton Utilites to view/image these diskettes without
any success.

It is not clear to me if there is still valid data on
these disks.  My experience has shown me that data on
a 5.25 inch can get corrupted over time.  Does anyone
know if the tools above could successfully read these
disks?  I am using a 1.2 Mb drive.  If these tools
can't do the job, does anyone know of a definitive way
to get at this data using an x86 or Sun system?

Thanks all,

Sety


 
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