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Re: [CISSP-D] Question

Subject: Re: [CISSP-D] Question
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:57:15 -0800 (PST)
Hi there,

What I understand, there are two cases when a
collusion is expected. 
1) If some one wants to get un-authorised access. (to
defeat a preventive control)
2) If some one is caught and wants not to be
highlighted. (to defeat a detective control)

The question says "in order to get access to data"
which means that a mishap has not taken place as yet.
I mean he still do not have a certain access. So he
should collude with the one who has authorization
rights to get un-authorised access. 

Mr. Kasturi commented "I think 1  is corect. Collusion
is necessitated only
when the person 
doesnt have access to a particular function"

What I believe collusion can also be observed if
someone is caught by another person if he is doing
something wrong and his job has been rotated.

Please correct me if I am wrong..

best Regards,



--- Kasturi Narahari Rao
<naraharirao.kasturi@cmcltd.com> wrote:

Hi...

I think 1  is corect. Collusion is necessitated only
when the person 
doesnt have access to a particular function. Only
option 1 talks 
about 'limiting the local access of operations
personnel', in which 
case he/she has to necessarily collude with another
operator who has 
the necessary autjhorization for access, so as to
access data to 
which he/she is not authorized because 'access was
limited '. 


Regards

Narahari


--- In CISSP-Discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Mooney
Sherman" 
<Mooney.Sherman@g...> wrote:

Hi Waheed:
 
I would say - 2- Job rotation of operations
personnel.because this 
may provide access to various unauthorized resources
at different 
times by various personnel - so it would be
difficult to audit and 
keep track of the unauthorized data and how it is
used. Unless 
auditing was turned on for authorized/unauthorized
and reviewed 
deligently to see who is accessing what - this may
help in tracking 
the culprit but won't prevent the damage from
occuring.
 
Cheers
 
Mooney

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:05 AM
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Subject: [CISSP-D] Question



Dear Colleagues,

 

I would like to know if you have a definite answer
for this quiz:

 

 

Which of the following security controls might
force an operator 
into collusion with personnel assigned
organizationally within 
different function in order to gain access to
unauthorized data?

 

1- Limiting the local access of operations
personnel.

 

2- Job rotation of operations personnel.

 

3- Management monitoring of audit logs.

 

4- Enforcing regular password changes.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Waleed Omar


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