Good point. I once did a google search on a simple PPTP VPN issue I was having
and an interesting forum hit me about how this technician was having an issue
with two remote laptops that were given to two security professionals(one a
CISSP). The security professional downplayed his side and was upset because he
felt it was on the "IT side of things". The tech weighed all the issues and
found that the issue actually lied somewhere in their personal firewall
settings on their laptops. Upon further research, he also found that the users
had been playing with the settings and messing with other settings as well.
Upon speaking with the one professional about the PPTP VPN issue, the security
professional actually said "What's PPTP? Is that some kind of VPN thing" I
almost died of laughter! I don't know how accurate the forum was but the
dialogue sure seemed very honest since the tech was going thru an extensive
troubleshooting list just to cover his own a-- pples I can't remember which
forum and I wish I had saved it.
Too funny!
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Backer [mailto:backer@pobox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:39 AM
To: 'Brian Backer'; 'Dennis'; CISSP-Discuss@yahoogroups.com
Cc: securitytech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CISSP-D] Re: CISSP, is it respected?
Dennis,
If it helps, I've seen several people get positions with very large
companies, working for VERY well known security CSO's simply because they
had the CISSP. Does that mean they know everything? No, of course not, but
it does mean 1. Security executives recognize it and 2. if you don't have
it, you might get passed over.
In my opinion, with all the recognition that ISC2 has received and articles
written regarding the CISSP, if you really have to ask the question, you
either a, haven't done your homework or b, don't have the qualifications
anyway.
Yes, the CISSP is respected and hopefully the community of CISSP's will
prevent UN-qualified people from getting into the circle. If they/we don't,
they we've only hurt ourselves.
Brian Backer
CISSP :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis [mailto:dennis21498134@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 11:34 AM
To: CISSP-Discuss@yahoogroups.com
Cc: securitytech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CISSP-D] Re: CISSP, is it respected?
--- Kate Wakefield <vraptorz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chris -
Regarding your question:
I am looking into a CISSP because I want a certification that actually
has respect. Is the CISSP respected?
The CISSP is the most respected security certification for a broad
general understanding of security issues. ISC2 has attempted to keep
it from becoming simply a "paper cert" (like the MCSE) by requiring
that people who take the exam have three years of professional
security-related experience.
I am an MCSE, and I am very aware of the notion of
paper certs. However, in my opinion, CISSP seems like
the ultimate paper cert. It is not difficult to get an
MCSE with zero actual on the job work experience.
However, it is necessary to actually play with a
Microsoft OS to learn how to use it. This is not
paper. The CISSP, however, seems to be very broad and
shallow paper, with no need to actually look at a
machine. CISSP requires 3-4 years of actual
experience. Therefore, a CISSP and 4 years experience
shows that a person has 4 years experience, which
would obviously be documented elsewhere on the resume.
I think the requirement of experience, which would be
documented elsewhere, is somewhat silly, for that very
reason. A CISSP seems worthless if the person does not
have experience, and if a person has experience the
interviewer should be able to read a resume without
asking the CISSP people to tell him that the person's
documented experience actually exists in their
opinion.
I would really like to know how much respect there is
for the CISSP.
Dennis
dennis21498134@yahoo.com
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