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| Subject: | [CISSP-D] Re: CISSP, is it respected? |
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| Date: | Mon, 7 Mar 2005 13:11:44 -0800 |
Date sent: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:55:27 -0800 From: Larry Gadallah <lgadallah@gmail.com>
I remain very interested in knowing the practical, real-world differences between the CISSP and GIAC certifications.
As has been said before, when you compare the CISSP and GIAC, you are comparing apples and oranges. I have frequently told people that if you want a job tomorrow, get a SANS cert. If you want to still have a job in ten years, get the CISSP. The SANS certs are specific to a given product or technology. The CISSP deals with the whole of infosec. Some historical perspective. I remember the first calls for questions to include on an exam that (eventually) became the CISSP. At that time, there were all kinds of people who were selling themselves as security experts. Some were, and many weren't. At the same time, many people who legitimately were expert in one or another field of security only knew about their particular area, and it was frequently an exercise in frustration to watch an attempted dialogue between people who were expert in their own fields, but didn't understand the other. The idea behind the CISSP was that you would have a single standard that would be able to state the minimum requirements for somebody to say that they understood security. (Minimum, I should remind those who see the CISSP as an elitist designation.) The certification should also ensure that anyone who held it would be able to have a minimum foundation of background so that any two holders would quickly be able to establish a common ground and establish a dialogue. That is the rationale behind the CISSP. And, in large measure, it has fulfilled its purpose. It is not, and should not be, the only security cert in town. It isn't the elite. It isn't a tech cert. It's a basis for minimum background and communications.
There has been plenty of discussion about the inherent conflict of interest of the certifying bodies (ISC2 and SANS), but I'm more interested in finding out how the marketplace views and values these certifications, with the understanding that an individual with a certification and nothing else is not much of an asset to any organization, as has been noted earlier.
SANS certs are very often required for specific jobs or products. The CISA is a must if you want to be taken seriously as an infosec auditor. The CISSP is becoming more widely known. It is certainly not alone on job postings, but shows up most frequently. (Sometimes even on jobs that are not security specific, but might touch on the area. I've seen a number of IT director level job postings that want it.) It is starting to show up after author names on book jackets. Is the CISSP respected? Yes. Universally? No. Broadly? It's getting there ... ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade@vcn.bc.ca slade@victoria.tc.ca rslade@sun.soci.niu.edu A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he resents. - G. C. Lichtenberg http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev or http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~rslade Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CISSP-Discuss/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CISSP-Discuss-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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