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[CISSP-D] Re: CISSP, is it respected?

Subject: [CISSP-D] Re: CISSP, is it respected?
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 13:11:44 -0800

Date sent:              Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:55:27 -0800
From:                   Larry Gadallah <lgadallah@gmail.com>

I remain very interested in knowing the practical, real-world
differences between the CISSP and GIAC certifications.

As has been said before, when you compare the CISSP and GIAC, you are 
comparing apples and oranges.

I have frequently told people that if you want a job tomorrow, get a SANS cert. 
 If 
you want to still have a job in ten years, get the CISSP.  The SANS certs are 
specific to a given product or technology.  The CISSP deals with the whole of 
infosec.

Some historical perspective.  I remember the first calls for questions to 
include on 
an exam that (eventually) became the CISSP.  At that time, there were all kinds 
of 
people who were selling themselves as security experts.  Some were, and many 
weren't.  At the same time, many people who legitimately were expert in one or 
another field of security only knew about their particular area, and it was 
frequently an exercise in frustration to watch an attempted dialogue between 
people who were expert in their own fields, but didn't understand the other.  
The 
idea behind the CISSP was that you would have a single standard that would be 
able 
to state the minimum requirements for somebody to say that they understood 
security.  (Minimum, I should remind those who see the CISSP as an elitist 
designation.)  The certification should also ensure that anyone who held it 
would 
be able to have a minimum foundation of background so that any two holders 
would quickly be able to establish a common ground and establish a dialogue.

That is the rationale behind the CISSP.  And, in large measure, it has 
fulfilled its 
purpose.  It is not, and should not be, the only security cert in town.  It 
isn't the 
elite.  It isn't a tech cert.  It's a basis for minimum background and 
communications.

There has been
plenty of discussion about the inherent conflict of interest of the
certifying bodies (ISC2 and SANS), but I'm more interested in finding
out how the marketplace views and values these certifications, with
the understanding that an individual with a certification and nothing
else is not much of an asset to any organization, as has been noted
earlier.

SANS certs are very often required for specific jobs or products.  The CISA is 
a 
must if you want to be taken seriously as an infosec auditor.

The CISSP is becoming more widely known.  It is certainly not alone on job 
postings, but shows up most frequently.  (Sometimes even on jobs that are not 
security specific, but might touch on the area.  I've seen a number of IT 
director 
level job postings that want it.)  It is starting to show up after author names 
on 
book jackets.

Is the CISSP respected?  Yes.  Universally?  No.  Broadly?  It's getting there 
...

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