Chris,
If one is unqualified to hold (OUR) certification then we as members of
(OUR) certifying body have a right / responsibility to see that this is
rectified. A frivolous law suit from a prospective job applicant will not
change that nor will it result in their getting their dream job.
There are no paper certifications, only paper certified professionals. We
can look at any profession that has a certification process and find folks
who would probably be better off doing anything else. All certification
processes can be subjugated to some degree. The CISSP certification process
is no different.
So let's say for the sake of argument someone decided that the CISSP was
something they wanted. They were clueless otherwise but spent enough time
and money to get ready for the exam. They pass, they dupe someone into
underwriting them and now they are a CISSP. Certification, like college
education, looks great on a resume. What do you do when you get to the
interview? What do you do on your first day on the job? The certification
will help you stand out of the resume pile but it won't help you after you
get in the mix. Let me assure you, when I am interviewing people who can
not demonstrate they know what they are talking about they don't get the
job.
Next, if this certain someone fails to meet professional and ethical
standards for a CISSP, they are pretty stringent you should take a look,
then a fellow CISSP can and should report them. What the ISC2 does after
that is up to them. However, the end result could be that both the "bogus"
CISSP and the underwriting CISSP could lose their credential. Now that is
certainly no fun for anyone!
None of this probably applies to you but you can see what I mean here right?
It is far better for a promising new security professional to demonstrate
their interest and competency with the tests designed for that purpose.
If you have everything covered by all means you should begin study now and
come join us. Though our conversations about the topic become quite
passionate at times you will find that most CISSPs seek quality company.
Many of us volunteer to Procter exams, some of run incredible study sites,
some of us manage discussion groups. All of which is done to help
prospective candidates do their best.
Best Regards,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Baker [mailto:chris@chrisbaker.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 11:33 PM
To: Cissp-discuss@yahoogroups.com; securitytech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CISSP-D] {FW from CISSP-Discuss} CISSP, is it respected?
It is a good stepping stone towards a later CISSP.
But why should someone aim lower if they think can get the higher
certification?
I had no respect for them and would tell anyone who asked me about
their qualifications not to hire them as well. I considered writing
ISC2 to revoke their certifications, but figured that would be petty.
The legal term for such a letter could be defamation. It might also get
you a very well-deserved lawsuit.
If you really think the certification is just a green card for a job,
I hope you choose not to pursue it.
What other reason is there for pursuing a certification?
Chris
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