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RE: [CISSP-D] Security Clearence

Subject: RE: [CISSP-D] Security Clearence
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:51:48 -0700
Hello there,

          Not having Security clearance has always been my problem. There
are many Gov contractor positions here in Colorado Springs that I have been
excluded from for this reason. I know I qualify, but getting hired without
one is difficult. After much searching I think I have found a solution to
the problem of obtaining a security clearance.

          It's called the DoD IA Scholarship Program.
http://www.defenselink.mil/nii/iasp/index.html       

Details are below. I plan on obtaining my Masters Degree this way. I am
going to finish up my bachelor's degree first.

 

Basically the way it works is this:

1.      You attend a CAE school,
http://www.defenselink.mil/nii/iasp/schoolsCAEList.htm  to obtain a BS or
Masters Degree in Information Assurance. Capital College is on the list,
they offer a MS degree program online. 

http://www.capitol-college.edu/academicprograms/graduateprograms/msns/index.
shtml        

2.      To be accepted, you must pass the government background
investigation. (Which is what I want anyway)
3.      You complete your degree and Uncle Sam pays your way. 
4.      In return, you agree to work for Uncle Sam (which is what I want)
for two years.

Please read all the links before asking me for further details. Yes, it is a
complicated process but worth it for some people who really want work in
Homeland Security, the NSA or any other gov contract.

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Graduate students and rising junior or senior undergraduates accepted at or
enrolled in one of the non-DoD institutions designated as CAEs are eligible
to apply for full scholarships to complete bachelor's, master's and doctoral
degrees, or graduate (post-baccalaureate) certificate programs, in an
information assurance discipline.

  Students who received scholarships during the 2004-2005 academic year, and
who wish to apply for additional support must submit updated application
information as described at IA
<http://www.defenselink.mil/nii/iasp/schoolsScholarshipVacancyAnnounce.htm>
Scholarship and Background Requirements.  Returning students will be given
first priority over new students as long as they continue to meet IASP
requirements. Subsequent scholarship awards are dependent upon satisfactory
academic progress, internship performance and the availability of funds.
Scholarship awards are also contingent on the CAE competing successfully for
a grant award. 

  Students selected for the program will receive scholarships (including
tuition, books, fees, and a stipend). During breaks in their academic
studies, Information Assurance Scholars will receive progressive, hands-on
experience in information security internships. In return, scholars must
agree to some restrictions and obligations regarding curriculum, GPA and
post-program employment. If all conditions are met, Information Assurance
Scholars who elect to serve a period of obligated service as civilian
employees will receive full-time permanent positions with the Department of
Defense on program completion. Alternately, scholarship recipients may elect
to serve a period of obligated service as a member of the National Guard or
Reserves. Instructions for applying for this opportunity and application
materials are available at DoD IA
<http://www.defenselink.mil/nii/iasp/schoolsScholarshipVacancyAnnounce.htm>
Scholarship and Background Requirements.
http://www.defenselink.mil/nii/iasp/schoolsScholarshipVacancyAnnounce.htm


 

 

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From: Kevin Stevens [mailto:certification@pursued-with.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:38 PM
To: itpro_pa
Cc: CISSP-Discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CISSP-D] Security Clearence

 




On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, itpro_pa wrote:

I see this forum talk a lot about the well treasured (as they should be)
certifications. Having a decade of experience in the field of IT, but as
a newbie to this sector, I was wondering about the added factor of a
security clearance and the marketability of the credentials. Can ANYONE
in this forum tell of their experience or the path one might take in
getting even the most minimal clearance possible? I am currently
scheduled to sit for the CISSP on March 12th in Baltimore. I am really
interested in gaining security clearance but heard (and read) it is
quite costly unless you have a corporate sponsor. Is this true? Can one
gain a minimal security clearance on his own?

AFAIK there is no such thing as a "personal" clearance.  This comes
straight from the need-to-know/least privilege philosophy.  Generally the
subcontractor company or goverment agency directly, as the data owner,
determines the level of clearance you need to perform your job, and
sponsors your application for it.  The clearance only exists for the time
you require that access -  you don't take it with you when you change
employers or even contracts.

All you can have/demonstrate as an individual is that you are *capable* of
being approved for a certain clearance.  For example, I have a "secret"
level clearance sponsored by my employer for my current work on a DoD
contract.  If I'm applying for a job with a different company, I can
demonstrate that I'm currently capable of being issued a secret clearance,
and that may be an important factor in whether they hire me or not.  But
my current clearance wouldn't go with me; the hiring company would have to
sponsor a new one for me based on my new job requirements.  When you see
in a job ad "must have x clearance", that's really shorthand for the
above.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but I'd imagine they'd fall into the
category where the individual is also the data owner or is
self-incorporated as a subcontracting company, something like that.

Hope this helps!

KeS









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